Lucky Episode Thirteen

This month I had the pleasure of interviewing Ching-In about their recent publication, recombinant. We got to talk about archive, language, history, and gender. 

Ching-In Chen is the author of The Heart's Traffic (Arktoi Books) and recombinant (Kelsey Street Press) and co-editor of The Revolution Starts at Home: Confronting Intimate Violence Within Activist Communities (South End Press; AK Press) and Here is a Pen: an Anthology of West Coast Kundiman Poets (Achiote Press)A Kundiman, Lambda, Watering Hole and Callaloo Fellow, they are part of the Macondo and Voices of Our Nations Arts Foundation writing communities. Their work has appeared in The Best American Experimental WritingThe &NOW Awards 3: The Best Innovative Writing, and Troubling the Line: Trans and Genderqueer Poetry and PoeticsThey are a senior editor of The Conversant and poetry editor of the Texas Review. They serve on the Executive Board of Thinking Its Presence: Race, Advocacy, Solidarity in the Arts as the Director of Membership and Social Media.

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Artists and works mentioned in this episode:

The Sound of Waves Breaking this week is from Jon Jang and the Pan-Asian Arkestra's "Night in Tunisia," just in case you're curious. 

This episode was edited by Mitchel Davidovitz, whose sound project you can find here on bandcamp

Episode Five

In this episode, I had the lovely opportunity to talk to Zoe Tuck in a coffee shop in Oakland. We discuss speculative fiction and poetry, the second wave feminism she navigated during her coming-of-age years, spirituality, trans/ gender variant identities and collective memory, and more. 

Zoe's website is here

and you can order Terror Matrix from TIL here

Other writers and thinkers brought up in this show: 

David Antin

Interview that Tom Léger was part of that I mentioned

"What is Bay Area Poetry" Podcast

Zoe’s review of Archipelago

Connie Willis

Ursula K. Le Guinn

Laura Moriarty

Alice Notley

Zach Ozma

bell hooks on arts education and visual politics

The sound of waves breaking was a bunch of turkeys, as per my partner's request.

Theme music is by Bahati Kiro, and the transition music is by Chris Zorn.

Transcripts by Amir Rabiyah:

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